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From: spudboy100 via Everything List <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: American Intelligence
>>Yeah, we all deal with the oceans rising because, hey, its a much, bigger,
>>problem, and then avoid the knock out punch from outside the US. Nice advice,
>>thanks. Though nowadays, even BHO doesn't like the results of his policies.
>>You'd better be lecturing him instead of myself.
If you believe that the few thousands of fundamentalist fighters who are
rampaging in a desert far away can deliver a "knockout punch" to the United
States then you must be on some very good (or maybe very bad) drugs. Do you
have any idea of the strategic depth of the United States and how truly hard it
would be to deliver a knockout punch to this continental sized industrialized
highly armed super power?
You slip off into the absurd.
Chris
Of course you are spudhead... you choose to live in dread. The world has much
bigger problems than a couple thousand malcontents in the Middle East --
invoking a return to medieval-ism as their rallying cry. The fact that you are
obsessed with this distraction reveals a rather poor analytic functionality
operating in your brain (such as it is)
>Chris
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From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <[email protected]>
To: everything-list <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Jul 1, 2014 7:27 pm
Subject: Re: American Intelligence
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From: spudboy100 via Everything List <[email protected]>
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Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2014 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: American Intelligence
You might as well dismiss these guys as there is probably zero worth doing now.
However the now has gases and anthrax so we'll see what they will do if
anything. I am betting they will.
Of course you are spudhead... you choose to live in dread. The world has much
bigger problems than a couple thousand malcontents in the Middle East --
invoking a return to medieval-ism as their rallying cry. The fact that you are
obsessed with this distraction reveals a rather poor analytic functionality
operating in your brain (such as it is)
Chris
This boogie monster, this Caliphate you brandish about as if it should somehow
inspire chills and shivers of fear in all who hear the dread word mentioned…
is nothing more than a few thousand well-armed Salafi thugs in the deserts of
Syria & Iraq.
>We should be afraid… why exactly?
>
>The funny thing for me is that you will no doubt produce some kind of answer…
>so please do humor me. Why should a few thousand scary looking thugs with
>automatic weapons in some far away desert scare anybody beyond their immediate
>neighbors?
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Sent: Tue, Jul 1, 2014 1:28 am
Subject: RE: American Intelligence
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Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 9:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: American Intelligence
You have a splendid idea there and many people round the world agree with you.
This is not an irrational argument, though likely, too optimistic. Your
sensibilities, and mine, are not shared globally. look to the new Caliphate,
for an example on people differing in world view.
This boogie monster, this Caliphate you brandish about as if it should somehow
inspire chills and shivers of fear in all who hear the dread word mentioned…
is nothing more than a few thousand well-armed Salafi thugs in the deserts of
Syria & Iraq.
We should be afraid… why exactly?
The funny thing for me is that you will no doubt produce some kind of answer…
so please do humor me. Why should a few thousand scary looking thugs with
automatic weapons in some far away desert scare anybody beyond their immediate
neighbors?
>
>And anyway.. I really hope nobody will ever use nuclear weapons anymore; this
>will only result in our own extinction (if anybody ever survive, it will be at
>minima the end of our civilization). There is really no point to ever think it
>could be a safe detterent to use one.
>
>Quentin
>
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From: Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]>
To: everything-list <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, Jun 30, 2014 11:15 am
Subject: Re: American Intelligence
And anyway.. I really hope nobody will ever use nuclear weapons anymore; this
will only result in our own extinction (if anybody ever survive, it will be at
minima the end of our civilization). There is really no point to ever think it
could be a safe detterent to use one.
Quentin
2014-06-30 17:07 GMT+02:00 Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]>:
The USA has the capacity to destroy the missile before it even touch the US...
USA has not the capacity to do this for all the Russian ICBM *by treaties* not
because it's too difficult... USA has enough anti-ICBM to destroy any north
korean ICBM who would threaten them... I doubt that North Korea has developed
stealth ICBM...
Quentin
2014-06-30 17:01 GMT+02:00 spudboy100 via Everything List
<[email protected]>:
>Quentin, I am more concerned that if North Korea attacks the US, Obama and his
>party will do nothing. "It'll just make things worse!" "We cannot risk things
>getting out of hand." "The entire human species is at stake. We can absorb
>the damage done and minimize our losses." "We'd be killing their children as
>well as their leaders, we cannot do this!" This is what I see, in reaction to
>a Kim Strike. Also, as you rightly mentioned: do you really think that if the
>USA use nuke against those countries, China and Russia (and others who have
>the bomb) will do nothing ?
>
>lay back and enjoy it, maybe ;-D ? I am more worried about what our elites do
>than what China and Russia do. I don't see this as a hollow threat, or a
>paper tiger, Quentin, as this article indicates. Its from Reuters, which is a
>progressive news agency. I never post stuff from Fox, or some blog, when I
>engage in polly discussions, because its more meaningful when the news comes
>from "ones' own."
>
>http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/02/us-northkorea-missiles-idUSBREA4102S20140502
>
>http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/02/us-northkorea-missiles-idUSBREA4102S20140502
>Yes, from what I've read, a local nuclear conflict is pretty sure to escalate
>to a full blown global nuclear conflict leading to global destruction...
>>do you really think that if the USA use nuke against those countries, China
>>and Russia (and others who have the bomb) will do nothing ?
>>Quentin
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]>
>To: everything-list <[email protected]>
>Sent: Mon, Jun 30, 2014 10:16 am
>Subject: Re: American Intelligence
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>
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>2014-06-30 14:38 GMT+02:00 spudboy100 via Everything List
><[email protected]>:
>Well, I somehow do remember MAD, and it worked with the Sovs, but I suspect
>less so with Iran, Isis and North Kor. Do you disagree?
>
>Yes, from what I've read, a local nuclear conflict is pretty sure to escalate
>to a full blown global nuclear conflict leading to global destruction... do
>you really think that if the USA use nuke against those countries, China and
>Russia (and others who have the bomb) will do nothing ?
>
>Quentin
>
>Because all out nuclear war would make large chunks of the planet
>uninhabitable?
>>
>>
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>>From: LizR <[email protected]>
>>To: everything-list <[email protected]>
>>Sent: Sun, Jun 29, 2014 8:39 pm
>>Subject: Re: American Intelligence
>>
>>
>>On 30 June 2014 11:14, spudboy100 via Everything List
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>I tend to agree with your sentiments, Telmo. My idea, should you care, is
>>that if one goes to war, half measures and quarter measures end up quite
>>badly. If one can achieve peace, justice, and free beer, without doing
>>violence to one's fellow primates, this is a great thing. But it is not
>>assured, that simply because one tries a peaceable track, that it will even
>>work. So, if one fights, why hold back?
>>
>>Because all out nuclear war would make large chunks of the planet
>>uninhabitable?
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