From: [email protected]
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Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 4:42 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: American Intelligence

 

It's always a judgement call, and there have been a fair amount of
pundits,basically, saying, "Let them kill each other." This is ok by me as
its something they have done for over 13 centuries. Having said this, we all
have a dog in this race (except Chris) who needs to be concerned about
actions beyond a tidy Sunni caliphate. The seem to have other plans, beyond
a local nation state, and they have gathered some new goodies, that are,
possibly, still functional, (maybe not?). It's still a judgment call,
however, this is like in the US, where a released criminal felon is walking
down the street and seen looking in cars and then saying, "Oh that fool will
never do any more stealing, because he's already been in the penn for 3
years! He'll never do that kind of thing again." Well, maybe, but then
Islamists have a thing called recidivism. If we can dodge a anthrax 9-11,
this is great. 

 

Fight your own damn crusade coward. You demand others go off to do the
dying; when it is you who deserves to win the Darwin award.

 

 

And the cash this eats up; if we were just half as diligent with our
education, leveling economic playing fields, environment etc. as we are with
our arms...PGC = Peace Give Chance, stupid cliche monster: "Get out! Get the
fuck out, I say! The hippie shit makes sense if it isn't dumb, ok?"

 

 

 

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From: Platonist Guitar Cowboy <[email protected]>
To: everything-list <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Jul 2, 2014 10:12 pm
Subject: Re: American Intelligence

 

 

On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:27 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
<[email protected]> wrote:

 

 

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From: spudboy100 via Everything List <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 

Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: American Intelligence

 

>>Oh, I think it is totally doable.

 

Of course you do -- you are a couch potato, on a holy mission, pining for a
bloody clash of civilizations total war. Go fight your crusade by yourself
-- coward --  stop trying to drag my country into this quagmire -- any more
than neocon chickenhawks -- cut from the same cowardly cloth as you -- have
already done.

 

>> All you need are the right ingredients. Notice that even as a
nationalist, I do not disinclude the likely success of a well financed and
executed attack. 9-11 was the primo example, where the political will wasn't
there to prevent a successful attack with limited goals. 

 

There is no universal agreement on 911, but even assuming the story you
believe in is the truth -- 911 was NO knockout punch. Not even remotely
close.

 

>>So now that ISIS has now allegedly, goodies in their hands like sarin and
vx nerve agents, as well as weaponized anthrax, why not go for the choke
points that Allah, in his benificence has rewarded you with? Depending on
the condition of the bug juice, it may not even be leather anymore, the may
try for Saudi, Israel, or Jordan, or Europe, and then watch the Kufar run
for cover. It may be that hitting the US is the most emotionally rewarding
target, or it may wind in in the sunni-shia war. The lib notion is that the
US is so big, powerful, immense of wealth,that it is unassailable. This is
ego, emotion, propaganda, un-reason. Our ancient ancestors we able to drive
much larger and stronger mammoths over cliffs. Let's not be those mammoths.

 

You keep pulling your most scary rabbits out of your hat -- in your attempt
to conjure up some imminent threat. But there is no imminent threat.. by any
stretch of reasonable evaluation posed by a few thousand lightly armed
fighters in some far away desert. 

 

Who are you trying to convince with your wild eyed fact challenged
prognostications?

 

You grant "prognostication" here, where I wouldn't even bother. 

If you have, in face of our histories, inflexible social contract plus
distribution of powers, there will be opposition with violent subset. So
naturally the evil subset keep trying, and every time they do it's just
plain chickenhawk 101 to yell "see, I told you!". Doesn't change the fact
that every effective bomb or bullet multiplies the gap between people and
their histories. 

It's not a prediction, merely propaganda to keep military interest
legitimized, because some possible threat by those evil guys is just always
the case.

And the cash this eats up; if we were just half as diligent with our
education, leveling economic playing fields, environment etc. as we are with
our arms...PGC = Peace Give Chance, stupid cliche monster: "Get out! Get the
fuck out, I say! The hippie shit makes sense if it isn't dumb, ok?"

 

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