On 2 July 2014 18:17, Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]> wrote:

> 2014-07-02 3:30 GMT+02:00 LizR <[email protected]>:
>
> On 2 July 2014 11:09, spudboy100 via Everything List <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> SMad will likely not work with say, an Iranian guv mint, but it worked
>>> ok with the Sovs. You fear a Pyrrhic victory, I fear capitulation.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, MAD wouldn't work with a nation of suicide bombers, for example, it
>> requires the other side to have a rational desire to stay alive. I suspect
>> that covers most world leaders myself but who knows you *may *have a
>> point. Assuming you do, then you're basically saying you'd rather the human
>> race died on its feet than lived on its knees, a view with which I have
>> some sympathy (although having died on its feet there isn't a chance for a
>> later slaves' revolt...)
>>
>
> It would certainly not work because MAD is *mutually* assured
> destruction... While I can't deny they would be able to ensure some
> destruction, they would be the only one to have the "assured destruction"
> part in case of a nuclear conflict with the US, they do not have the
> necessary weapons power to ensure the US would be destroy, if and when then
> will have the bomb, they'll have nothing compared to the stockpile of the
> US (unless another nuclear power escalate the thing and the whole world
> goes "MAD")
>
> Yes it would only be MAD if the destruction was assured, so obviously I
was only speaking hypothetically, as I assume was spudboy100 at this time
(and hopefully long into the future).

Originally I said the reason to notgo all out in a nuclear war was "large
areas of the Earth would be made uninhabitable" or something similar. It
was spudboy100 who introduced MAD.

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