On 04 Jul 2014, at 20:43, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
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On 04 Jul 2014, at 10:36, LizR wrote:
On 4 July 2014 18:16, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
This kind of classification is fine as far as distinguishing
believing god doesn't exist from failing to believe that god does
exist. But it is still ambiguous because it assumes that "God(s)"
is definite. I don't believe that personal agent type gods exist;
but I'm on the fence about some creative principle or unnamable
truths that some people would like to call "God". I believe that
theist (e.g. Abrahamic) gods do not exist.
I comment Brent first, here.
OK. fair enough, but even if the God of the theists does not exist,
he might still have important relationships with the Plotinus ONE,
or even with the notion of arithmetical truth as pointed too by a
machine.
But doesn't "God" imply an Identity, which cannot by its very nature
be all things,
I am not sure what makes you think I defined God by "all thing". It is
more the truth about all things. This can be shown to be non
definable, and as such might not have an identity in the sense you are
using that term here.
because Identity always is - and must be - defined in terms of a
larger set; i.e. good is defined in terms of evil both within some
larger set that encompasses both. The ineffable, indescribable
essence is without Identity.
You might elaborate, as I am not even sure "identity" applies here. I
would say it is not without identity, nor with identity. I suspect a
category error.
Bruno
Chris
In all texts, I take what is convincing, and let what I don't
understand for further reflexion.
And here I comment Liz:
OK. Although string theory almost certainly predicts that they exist
somewhere (but not in our corner of the multiverse).
Really? I doubt this. Daemon capable of imitating God might be prove
to exist, in both some QM-GR theory, and in arithmetic, but for God
itself, I am afraid it is more transcendent than any seemingly being
in any realm. In the terrestrial (effective) realm, you can't
distinguish God from the Devil. The most which can make (G*- non
communicable) sense is that you eventually remember who you are,
being God, or the Devil. It is the only way you might be able to
differentiate them.
Bruno
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