RE: Tyson is not atheist (was Re: So, a new kind of non-boolean, non-digital, computer architecture

Fri, 04 Jul 2014 11:44:22 -0700 

 

 

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On 04 Jul 2014, at 10:36, LizR wrote:





On 4 July 2014 18:16, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:



This kind of classification is fine as far as distinguishing believing god
doesn't exist from failing to believe that god does exist.  But it is still
ambiguous because it assumes that "God(s)" is definite.  I don't believe
that personal agent type gods exist; but I'm on the fence about some
creative principle or unnamable truths  that some people would like to call
"God". I believe that theist (e.g. Abrahamic) gods do not exist.

 

I comment Brent first, here.

 

OK. fair enough, but even if the God of the theists does not exist, he might
still have important relationships with the Plotinus ONE, or even with the
notion of arithmetical truth as pointed too by a machine. 

 

But doesn't "God" imply an Identity, which cannot by its very nature be all
things, because Identity always is - and must be - defined in terms of a
larger set; i.e. good is defined in terms of evil both within some larger
set that encompasses both. The ineffable, indescribable essence is without
Identity.

Chris

 

In all texts, I take what is convincing, and let what I don't understand for
further reflexion.

 

 

And here I comment Liz:





 

OK. Although string theory almost certainly predicts that they exist
somewhere (but not in our corner of the multiverse).

 

Really? I doubt this. Daemon capable of imitating God might be prove to
exist, in both some QM-GR theory, and in arithmetic, but for God itself, I
am afraid it is more transcendent than any seemingly being in any realm. In
the terrestrial (effective) realm, you can't distinguish God from the Devil.
The most which can make (G*- non communicable) sense is that you eventually
remember who you are, being God, or the Devil. It is the only way you might
be able to differentiate them.

 

Bruno

 

 





 

 

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