On 17 Jul 2014, at 01:00, Alberto G. Corona wrote:

The latest theories of everithing admit absolutely everithing.

Which one? What do you mean by "absolutely everything"?



they
are no longer materialistic. Either they are no-theories or they allow
any interpretation anyone may like about the know and unknow reality.

I really don't know what theories you refer too.




In certain sense materialism has given up without being conscious of
it. That is because its foundation is metaphysical and metaphysics has
experimented a regression to the stone age, or at least to the level
previous to the greek phylosophy.

That has begun since theology has been banished from academy, and replaced by a social sort of authorianism.

It is normal for those wanting power to take over on the fundamental theories. It is bad and sad, but natural and usual. That's why we must be vigilant, and fight for a coming back to reason and observation in *all* fields, not just on God and health.

Bruno






2014-07-09 22:12 GMT+02:00, John Mikes <[email protected]>:
I apologize for taking a new title for this over-discussed topic.
Somebody (sounds like Bruno, the fonts look like Brent) wrote:

"...let us do theology seriously instead of referring to fairy tales.
You confirm what I said to John Clark. *Atheist* defend the God of the
bible. Read Plotinus, forget the bible, unless you find some passage
you like and which inspire you, but that is private, don't make that
public. "

I  refer to the generality about 'atheists' in the passage. I
emphasize that I am no atheist in such a sense who IMO requires 'a god
to deny' (my vocabulary includes the term as 'denying' instead of
'defending').

I simply exclude those facets which are beyond our reach at present.
In speaking about Everything I think of an infinite complexity of
components we cannot even understand (today) - nor the relations
between them ALL. We include SOME into our 'model of the world' as of
yesterday without knowing if we are right.

In such sense even a (sane-minded) adilt can be an 'atheist'.

John M

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