On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 09:41:00PM -0700, meekerdb wrote:
> On 8/14/2014 8:32 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
> >On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 08:12:30PM -0700, meekerdb wrote:
> >>That does seem strange, but I don't know that it strikes me as
> >>*absurd*. Isn't it clearer that a recording is not a computation?
> >>And so if consciousness supervened on a recording it would prove
> >>that consciousness did not require computation?
> >>
> >To be precise "supervening on the playback of a recording". Playback
> >of a recording _is_ a computation too, just a rather simple one.
> >
> >In other words:
> >
> >#include <stdio.h>
> >int main()
> >{
> > printf("hello world!\n");
> > return 1;
> >}
> >
> >is very much a computer program (and a playback of recording of the
> >words "hello world" when run). I could change "hello world" to the contents
> >of
> >Wikipedia, to illustrate the point more forcibly.
> OK. So do you think consciousness supervenes on such a simple
> computation - one that's functionally identical with a recording? Or
> does instantiating consciousness require some degree of complexity
> such that CC comes into play?
>
My opinion on whether the recording is conscious or not aint worth a
penny.
Nevertheless, the definition of computational supervenience requires
countefactual correctness in the class of programs being supervened
on.
AFAICT, the main motivation for that is to prevent recordings being conscious.
> What do you think of the requirement that consciousness (and the
> computation on which it supervenes) have some causal reference to
> environment to give them meaning? It seems to me this is a
> different, and additional, requirement over and above CC.
>
Maybe, but it has an identical effect on the MGA.
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