Le 15 août 2014 06:41, "meekerdb" <[email protected]> a écrit : > > On 8/14/2014 8:32 PM, Russell Standish wrote: >> >> On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 08:12:30PM -0700, meekerdb wrote: >>> >>> That does seem strange, but I don't know that it strikes me as >>> *absurd*. Isn't it clearer that a recording is not a computation? >>> And so if consciousness supervened on a recording it would prove >>> that consciousness did not require computation? >>> >> To be precise "supervening on the playback of a recording". Playback >> of a recording _is_ a computation too, just a rather simple one. >> >> In other words: >> >> #include <stdio.h> >> int main() >> { >> printf("hello world!\n"); >> return 1; >> } >> >> is very much a computer program (and a playback of recording of the >> words "hello world" when run). I could change "hello world" to the contents of >> Wikipedia, to illustrate the point more forcibly. > > OK. So do you think consciousness supervenes on such a simple computation - one that's functionally identical with a recording?
I think it does... as it does on a giant lookup table. But as it is in fact supervening on *all* computations going through the same states and not on this or that precise computation, it's not a problem. Quentin Or does instantiating consciousness require some degree of complexity such that CC comes into play? > > What do you think of the requirement that consciousness (and the computation on which it supervenes) have some causal reference to environment to give them meaning? It seems to me this is a different, and additional, requirement over and above CC. > > Brent > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
