Le 15 août 2014 07:29, "Russell Standish" <[email protected]> a écrit : > > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 06:52:47AM +0200, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > Le 15 août 2014 06:41, "meekerdb" <[email protected]> a écrit : > > > > > > OK. So do you think consciousness supervenes on such a simple > > computation - one that's functionally identical with a recording? > > > > I think it does... as it does on a giant lookup table. But as it is in fact > > supervening on *all* computations going through the same states and not on > > this or that precise computation, it's not a problem. > > > > Hi Quentin, I'm pretty sure it was you who straightened me out on this > topic a bit over a year ago, so it seems surprising you're going > back on this. > > The computation supervenenience thesis is that consciousness > supervenes on all counterfactually equivalent computations (to a > particular execution step)
It doesn't have to be counterfactually correct to be equivalent up to a particular step. The thing is that 'recording' have a negligible measure and as I said, consciousness does not supervenes on *a* particular computation but on *all* the equivalent one up to step N. Like we could say in everett that your consciousness state supervenes on all fungible universes. Quentin , which is a more restricted set than those > passing through a given sequence of states. > > This allows us to assert that the consciousness does not supervene on > the recording (but will supervene on the huge lookup table, as the > latter is counterfactually correct). > > IIRC, Searle's Chinese Room is a huge lookup table. It fails the > intuition pump test because the lookup table would need to be > astronomically vast, not a human sized book as painted in the thought > experiment. > > Cheers > > -- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > Principal, High Performance Coders > Visiting Professor of Mathematics [email protected] > University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au > > Latest project: The Amoeba's Secret > (http://www.hpcoders.com.au/AmoebasSecret.html) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
