On 19 August 2014 21:35, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: I can agree. But it is not entirely, as I suspect you might prefer, a > reversal between 3p reality and 1p reality, as we continue to have a big 3p > reality: the arithmetical reality which contains computer science and the > machine's dream-support (the relevant computations). So the reversal is > made possible and sensical, because it is supported by the arithmetical > relations driving the "consciousness fluxes" in the relatively most > probable continuations.
Yes, I understand. I hope I've shaken off my former "1p absolutism" in the course of familiarising myself with your ideas. That said, I suspect that there is often an illegitimate sleight of the imagination in play in discussions of the 3p reality. ISTM that there is often (though not in your case, I hasten to add) the implicit assumption of a kind of default or meta- knower that goes on interpreting "what's really there" in the absence of any other observer. So in that light it just seems "obvious", for example, that the moon exists primarily as a brute 3p fact and any subsequent observation of it is merely some contingent secondary relation. It's almost as if we're overcompensating for the infantile belief that objects disappear when they can't be seen. In comp terms, however, it is clear that the moon can be no such brute fact, but rather the resultant of a complex potential for the lawlike appearance of a moon under suitable observational constraints. In this vein I offer the well-known limerick of Ronald Knox: There was a young man who said "God Must find it exceedingly odd To think that the tree Should continue to be When there's no one about in the quad." Reply: "Dear Sir: Your astonishment's odd; I am always about in the quad. And that's why the tree Will continue to be Since observed by, Yours faithfully, God.” David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
