On 8/18/2014 4:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: The laws will always assured the existence of computations in which you survive, and have that quantum MW aspects, but in some consciousness state we might live some "phase transition" between different physical realms. Obviously, we cannot get a physical reality in which there is no observers at all.
Why not? Are you saying there must have been observers in the early universe, even before the recombination? Must there be observers observing the interior of stars for them to be "physically real"? What does "physically real" mean in your theory? Brent -------------------------- Physically real is our religion as 'lately human scientists' where theory is god. It comes through the (development)evolution of us, humans into a "know-it-all"- all explaining animal. BTW in my agnosticism (sorry, Bruno) the OBSERVER is *anything* that observes - i.e. notices *anything* at all. No 'existence' is identifiable without observers, the world would be a heap of unrelated singularities by/for themselves. No arithmetix either! John M On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 2:28 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > On 8/18/2014 4:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > The laws will always assured the existence of computations in which you > survive, and have that quantum MW aspects, but in some consciousness state > we might live some "phase transition" between different physical realms. > Obviously, we cannot get a physical reality in which there is no observers > at all. > > > Why not? Are you saying there must have been observers in the early > universe, even before the recombination? Must there be observers observing > the interior of stars for them to be "physically real"? What does > "physically real" mean in your theory? > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

