On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

> By definition you accept computationalism, as you accept "yes doctor" +
> Church thesis.
>

Yes, although I can't prove it I think the chances that computationalism is
true is about the same as the probability that I am not the only conscious
being universe,and that is pretty damn high. As for "comp", I neither
believe nor disbelieve in it, I am just bored by it.


> >>> but neither evoloution, nor anything 3p can prove that comp is correct,
>


>> Fine, so "comp" isn't correct,
>


> that does not follow logically


Fine, so "comp" is correct,


> > We know also, as we assume comp [...]
>


> I don't assume your baby talk jargon or your silly homemade acronyms.
>


> Could you once stop making useless distracting ad hominem non sensical
> remark?


I would be glad to, just stop speaking scientific baby talk and stop
writing silly homemade acronyms.

> >>>>  before I can give you that precise answer I need to know what you
> mean by "the H-guy". Does it mean:
>
> 1) John Clark?
>>
>> 2)  The fellow currently experiencing Helsinki?
>>
>>  >>> Now you regress again, and we will cycle. Just consult sane04, the
> step 3 protocol is clear and has never change since the beginning.



>> So rather than simply answering my question with #1 or #2 you just say
> the answer, whatever the hell it is, has always been the same and then give
> a link to the same long paper that is full of imprecise vague pronouns.


> > What is vague? You have already asked. I define precisely the 1-you
> (content of the diary you can find in your pocket, with the usual indexical
> use of "your"), and the 3-you (content of the diary of an external
> observer, not entring in the tele-boxes).
>

So yet again rather than simply answering my question with #1 or #2 you
just continue with more bafflegab

So I ask again, does "the H guy" refer to  #1 "John Clark", or does it
>> refer to #2  "the fellow currently experiencing Helsinki"?
>
>
> I have already answered this many times,
>

Then please answer it just one more time. Pretty please, it will only take
you one ASCII symbol to do so, either a "1" or a "2".  I don't need another
dissertation, I just need a 1 or a 2.

> Non sense. It can't be 100% Mars and 25% hell.
>

Yes it can if you're dealing with adjectives and not nouns, adjectives like
John Clark. I can definitely send a green something to Mars and maybe send
a green something to hell, So there is a 100% chance there is something
green on Mars and a 25% chance there is something green in hell.

  John K Clark






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>
>
>
> because hell doesn't sound like much fun. But that's just John Clark,
> Bruno Marchal may feel differently and there is no disputing matters of
> taste.
>
> > b) with a non-destructive eavesdropping?
>>
>
> Then it doesn't matter if Eve intercept things or not because she doesn't
> interfere and lets things proceed as originally planned, so there is a 100%
> chance that John Clark will remain on Earth and a 100% chance John Clark
> will go to Mars; provided that Mars is a nice place John Clark would not
> hesitate in pushing that button.
>
>
> In this case it is teleportation, so the "original" on Earth is always
> supposed to be destroyed, but I will not quibble on this.
>
> I will just ask you how do you will explain this to the "John Clark"
> reconstituted by Eve in Hell? Certainlmy, he will think that his previous
> reasoning was wrong, OK?
>
> Bruno
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>   John K Clark
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