On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
> By definition you accept computationalism, as you accept "yes doctor" + > Church thesis. > Yes, although I can't prove it I think the chances that computationalism is true is about the same as the probability that I am not the only conscious being universe,and that is pretty damn high. As for "comp", I neither believe nor disbelieve in it, I am just bored by it. > >>> but neither evoloution, nor anything 3p can prove that comp is correct, > >> Fine, so "comp" isn't correct, > > that does not follow logically Fine, so "comp" is correct, > > We know also, as we assume comp [...] > > I don't assume your baby talk jargon or your silly homemade acronyms. > > Could you once stop making useless distracting ad hominem non sensical > remark? I would be glad to, just stop speaking scientific baby talk and stop writing silly homemade acronyms. > >>>> before I can give you that precise answer I need to know what you > mean by "the H-guy". Does it mean: > > 1) John Clark? >> >> 2) The fellow currently experiencing Helsinki? >> >> >>> Now you regress again, and we will cycle. Just consult sane04, the > step 3 protocol is clear and has never change since the beginning. >> So rather than simply answering my question with #1 or #2 you just say > the answer, whatever the hell it is, has always been the same and then give > a link to the same long paper that is full of imprecise vague pronouns. > > What is vague? You have already asked. I define precisely the 1-you > (content of the diary you can find in your pocket, with the usual indexical > use of "your"), and the 3-you (content of the diary of an external > observer, not entring in the tele-boxes). > So yet again rather than simply answering my question with #1 or #2 you just continue with more bafflegab So I ask again, does "the H guy" refer to #1 "John Clark", or does it >> refer to #2 "the fellow currently experiencing Helsinki"? > > > I have already answered this many times, > Then please answer it just one more time. Pretty please, it will only take you one ASCII symbol to do so, either a "1" or a "2". I don't need another dissertation, I just need a 1 or a 2. > Non sense. It can't be 100% Mars and 25% hell. > Yes it can if you're dealing with adjectives and not nouns, adjectives like John Clark. I can definitely send a green something to Mars and maybe send a green something to hell, So there is a 100% chance there is something green on Mars and a 25% chance there is something green in hell. John K Clark > > > > > because hell doesn't sound like much fun. But that's just John Clark, > Bruno Marchal may feel differently and there is no disputing matters of > taste. > > > b) with a non-destructive eavesdropping? >> > > Then it doesn't matter if Eve intercept things or not because she doesn't > interfere and lets things proceed as originally planned, so there is a 100% > chance that John Clark will remain on Earth and a 100% chance John Clark > will go to Mars; provided that Mars is a nice place John Clark would not > hesitate in pushing that button. > > > In this case it is teleportation, so the "original" on Earth is always > supposed to be destroyed, but I will not quibble on this. > > I will just ask you how do you will explain this to the "John Clark" > reconstituted by Eve in Hell? Certainlmy, he will think that his previous > reasoning was wrong, OK? > > Bruno > > > > > > > John K Clark > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

