On 24 Aug 2014, at 03:59, John Clark wrote:
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]>
wrote:
> By definition you accept computationalism, as you accept "yes
doctor" + Church thesis.
Yes, although I can't prove it I think the chances that
computationalism is true is about the same as the probability that I
am not the only conscious being universe,and that is pretty damn
high. As for "comp", I neither believe nor disbelieve in it, I am
just bored by it.
>>> but neither evoloution, nor anything 3p can prove that comp is
correct,
>> Fine, so "comp" isn't correct,
> that does not follow logically
Fine, so "comp" is correct,
> We know also, as we assume comp [...]
> I don't assume your baby talk jargon or your silly homemade
acronyms.
> Could you once stop making useless distracting ad hominem non
sensical remark?
I would be glad to, just stop speaking scientific baby talk and stop
writing silly homemade acronyms.
>>>> before I can give you that precise answer I need to know what
you mean by "the H-guy". Does it mean:
1) John Clark?
2) The fellow currently experiencing Helsinki?
>>> Now you regress again, and we will cycle. Just consult sane04,
the step 3 protocol is clear and has never change since the beginning.
>> So rather than simply answering my question with #1 or #2 you
just say the answer, whatever the hell it is, has always been the
same and then give a link to the same long paper that is full of
imprecise vague pronouns.
> What is vague? You have already asked. I define precisely the 1-
you (content of the diary you can find in your pocket, with the
usual indexical use of "your"), and the 3-you (content of the diary
of an external observer, not entring in the tele-boxes).
So yet again rather than simply answering my question with #1 or #2
you just continue with more bafflegab
So I ask again, does "the H guy" refer to #1 "John Clark", or does
it refer to #2 "the fellow currently experiencing Helsinki"?
I have already answered this many times,
Then please answer it just one more time. Pretty please, it will
only take you one ASCII symbol to do so, either a "1" or a "2". I
don't need another dissertation, I just need a 1 or a 2.
> Non sense. It can't be 100% Mars and 25% hell.
Yes it can if you're dealing with adjectives and not nouns,
adjectives like John Clark. I can definitely send a green something
to Mars and maybe send a green something to hell, So there is a 100%
chance there is something green on Mars and a 25% chance there is
something green in hell.
Ad hominem remarks, rethorical tricks, and you end for the 1000th time
with your usual confusion between first person and third person, that
you abstract away before complaining on lack on precision.
All this has been explained many times before, and I will nor more
reply to your "objection", unless you succeed in convincing someone
else to explain it in a post which focus on the subject.
Bruno
John K Clark
because hell doesn't sound like much fun. But that's just John
Clark, Bruno Marchal may feel differently and there is no disputing
matters of taste.
> b) with a non-destructive eavesdropping?
Then it doesn't matter if Eve intercept things or not because she
doesn't interfere and lets things proceed as originally planned, so
there is a 100% chance that John Clark will remain on Earth and a
100% chance John Clark will go to Mars; provided that Mars is a
nice place John Clark would not hesitate in pushing that button.
In this case it is teleportation, so the "original" on Earth is
always supposed to be destroyed, but I will not quibble on this.
I will just ask you how do you will explain this to the "John Clark"
reconstituted by Eve in Hell? Certainlmy, he will think that his
previous reasoning was wrong, OK?
Bruno
John K Clark
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