On 19 Sep 2014, at 02:03, meekerdb wrote:

On 9/18/2014 4:20 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
> We have no way to measure or detect consciousness,

That certainly isn't true in my case, there is one particular consciousness that I'm very very good at detecting, and although I can't prove it I have a hunch there is one consciousness you can detect too.

Right, but you can't propose an experiment that tests the claim that you are conscious or that I am conscious to a third party.

I don't know what you do for a living, Telmo, but I sure hope you're not an anesthesiologist.

That reminds me reading somewhere that some anesthetic, the volatile one, works for the paramecium (*).

That suggests a sort of argument that paramecium are conscious, as you can anesthetize them. They indeed stop moving and certainly look unconscious (!), but after a while, they wake up and regain activity :)

(*) Here:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22684567

Bruno






Brent

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