On 9/21/2014 2:30 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:

            >>  And I also know for a fact that those very same chemicals 
degrade my
            ability to behave intelligently, and that's exactly what you'd 
expect if
            Darwin was right.


        > Again, all I believe that can be said about this is that these 
chemicals change the contents of your experience.


    ALL?!! If you subtract the contents of your experience from your 
consciousness there
    is nothing remaining.


Ever tried an isolation tank?

Here's the crux of the equivocation on "conscious" that bothers me. Bruno apparently wants to define consciousness as a potentiality for self-reference (a fixed point of reference). This easily maps into theorems of provability in axiomatic systems. And that's fine. BUT he then also wants to say everybody knows what consciousness is and it's existence is indubitable. Those two don't got together. Hume remarked that whenever he was aware he was aware of some content. It quite possible to doubt that there is any such thing as direct of experience of consciousness without content. That axiomatic systems admit such reference is a feature of language which can seem to refer to itself.

Brent

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