Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> wrote:

> What disturbs me the most is our growing inability to say "I don't know".
>

I agree and that's the problem I have with David Deutsch, I like his
physics but not so much when he starts to wax philosophic, he seems to feel
that you always have to pretend that you  have a theory that
explains something when clearly sometimes you don't, or at least not
a theory that's worth more than a bucket of warm spit.

> science needs theory.
>

Saying you must always have a theory is the same as saying you should never
admit that you don't know how something works. It's always nice to have but
a good theory is not needed to do good science. You could perform a
experiment that conforms with all well accepted experimental protocols and
yet obtain a result that completely surprises and bewilders you, a result
that utterly destroys a theory that you and everybody else believed in
before, and nobody has come up with a new a better theory to replace it.
The result of that experiment is still science because nature will be the
way nature will be and if human beings don't like it or are confused that's
just too bad.


> >We cannot say things like "consciousness emerges from brain activity" and
> claim that science will eventually fill the gaps.
>

Maybe science will fill the gaps someday but I think it more likely that
there is no gap to fill and it's just a brute fact that consciousness is
the way data feels like when it is being processed and after that there is
nothing more to say about it; in other words it's fundamental and the end
the line of a long chain of "what caused that?" questions. Or maybe I'm
wrong and the sequence of  "what caused that?" questions goes on forever.
But it doesn't matter because one thing we do know for sure is that certain
types of brain activity causes consciousness; we may not know how it
manages to do it but we do know for a fact that  it does.


> > This is not theory,
>

True.


> > just faith,
>

False. It's not faith and it's not deduction either,  it's induction.

> I am sure the brain is an asynchronous computer, that intelligence is a
> property of this computer and so on.


OK.

> The trouble is that none of this seems to explain how consciousness
> originates.
>

As I've said, the lack of understanding of how brain activity causes
consciousness does not change the fact that there is a MASSIVE amount of
experimental evidence that brain activity causes consciousness. After all,
It's not as if deductive reasoning is the only way new knowledge can be
obtained.

  John K Clark

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