> On 20 Sep 2014, at 6:22 am, LizR <[email protected]> wrote: > > Does this mean evolution is intelligent but (probably) not conscious?
The Blind Watchmaker K > > >> On 20 September 2014 03:01, Stephen Paul King <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> Dear Bruno, >> >> I agree, this introduces the possibility that the "inhibiting or >> activation of gene" aspect is the "running of the particular algorithm" >> while the mutation and selection aspect might be seen as a process on the >> space of algorithms. >> >>> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> On 01 Sep 2014, at 17:57, Stephen Paul King wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Brent, >>>> >>>> Have you seen any studies of the "Ameoba dubia" that look into what >>>> their genome is expressing? >>>> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2933061/ seems to suggest to >>>> me the possibility that the genome is acting as a "brain"! >>> >>> Interesting. But in my opinion, you don't need dynamical change in the >>> genome (deletion or addition of genes). The "usual" regulation (inhibiting >>> or activation of gene) is enough. >>> >>> Bruno >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 3:05 AM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> On 8/31/2014 9:36 PM, Russell Standish wrote: >>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 01, 2014 at 12:24:37PM +1200, LizR wrote: >>>>>>> As per what I was saying about Watson (or whatever it's called), the >>>>>>> baby >>>>>>> needs to be immersed in an environment in order to develop any form of >>>>>>> consciousness beyond the rudimentary raw feels provided by nature - that >>>>>>> is, it needs to be educated by interaction with the environment, and >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> other people (i.e. assimilate culture). >>>>>> This actually supplies a good reason for why we should find ourselves >>>>>> in a regular, lawlike universe. We can get by with a smaller genome, >>>>>> and learn the rest of the stuff that makes up our mental life, which >>>>>> is a more likely scenario (even evolutionary speaking) than having a >>>>>> large genome directly encoding our knowledge. >>>>>> >>>>>> Of course, that is only possible if in fact the environment is regular >>>>>> enough to be learnable. >>>>> >>>>> So that's why Amoeba dubia has a genome 200x bigger than ours? It must >>>>> live in a very irregular environment. >>>>> >>>>> Brent >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>>>> Google Groups "Everything List" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/everything-list/YJeHJO5dNqQ/unsubscribe. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Kindest Regards, >>>> >>>> Stephen Paul King >>>> >>>> Senior Researcher >>>> Mobile: (864) 567-3099 >>>> >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> http://www.provensecure.us/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> “This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of >>>> the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain >>>> information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential and >>>> exempt from disclosure under applicable law or may be constituted as >>>> attorney work product. 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