On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 10:05 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Evolution is only interested in intelligent behavior because only that >> and not consciousness helps get genes into the next generation. So how did >> consciousness manage to produce at least one being (me) that's conscious? >> There are only 2 possibilities: >> >> 1) Perhaps consciousness aids in producing intelligent behavior. If >> this is true then it would be easier to make a intelligent computer that >> was conscious than to make a Intelligent computer that was not >> conscious. It would also mean that the Turing Test is not only a test >> for intelligence but was also a good (although not infallible) test for >> consciousness too. >> >> 2) The only way to produce intelligent behavior is to process >> information, and perhaps it's just a brute fact that consciousness is >> how information feels when it's being processed. >> In my opinion #2 is more likely than #1 but if Darwin was right then one >> of the two must be true, But either way consciousness must be a biological >> spandrel, and if you ever run across a smart computer you can conclude that >> it's probably conscious too. >> > > > I think #1 is more likely, so long as we identify consciousness with > what we experience > I don't know why you say "we", there is only one being you know to be conscious without even the smallest doubt. And things happen even to rocks, is this what you mean by "experience"? > > imaging, inner narrative, language (does anybody here think they could > formulate and understand Lob's theorem without language?). > But does use of language imply consciousness? If so then Watson is conscious, after all the only way we have of knowing if somebody understands something is to ask them questions about it and see if they give satisfactory answers. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
