2014-09-23 18:05 GMT+02:00 John Clark <[email protected]>: > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >> And this is a example of why I'm so certain that regardless of what you >>> say "comp" is NOT just a abbreviation for computationalism. >>> Computationalism says that consciousness is what matter does when it is >>> organized in certain ways >>> >> >> > No, that's not computationalism... that's functionalism. >> > > According to Wikipedia "functionalism" is the belief that mental states > are caused by "relations to other mental states, sensory inputs, and > behavioral outputs". > > This definition must have come from a professional philosopher or > psychologist, only they are silly enough to feel the need to put a name > (functionalism) on a platitude like the above; according to it everybody > must be a functionalist, even the Pope. > > > Computationalism involve computations >> > > Yes. > > > Consciousness could come from matter organized in certain ways without >> being the result of a computation. >> > > Please explain how you could organize matter, or organize anything else, > without using information. And if it involves information then it is in the > realm of computation and computers. > > If it involves non computable thing... like infinities ?
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