On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
> >> Please explain how you could organize matter, or organize anything
>> else, without using information. And if it involves information then it is
>> in the realm of computation and computers.
>>
>>
> > If it involves non computable thing
>

It's true Turing proved that non computable things do exist, but human
beings are not one bit better at dealing with them than computers are.

> like infinities ?
>

George Cantor  showed how to organize infinities, how to put them into
categories for example;  but the method for doing so involves a finite
amount of information, I know this because all of Cantor's papers can be
downloaded on the internet.

  John K Clark

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