On 03 Oct 2014, at 00:04, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
Spiritual as you said is a personal quest; religion (which you are
correct derives from the Latin verb religos "to bind together") is
institutional
Hmm... Not necessarily. And not necessarily with coercion at the
social level, but easily so at the familial level.
But very often so, including for the "atheist religion", in the USSR
and in my place according to some people.
Today we are doing the "error" again, in the field of medicine, where
the state can legislate on the meta-level, but not on the health
level, which is work of the doctor and shaman and you only.
and results in political institutions more centered on the quest to
preserve their privilege and their power than on anything else.
That happens with unions, politics, mafia. All protecting system (of
your right, freedom, health) will only protects itself *against* those
for who it has been built to protect, when the power separations leak.
Even if a religion where started based on purely good -- on just and
only excellently great ideas! -- within a few generations it will
become a vehicle to the exercise of earthly power and will attract
the kinds of psychopaths whom are attracted to positions where they
are able to exert arbitrary power over other people.
That is why the buddhist says that at some point you have to kill all
the buddhas. But if theology would come back to academy, the religion
institution would have evolved accordingly. Everyone would know the
basic (machine) theology and dismiss as "mad" anyone acting in
invoking publicly the name of what can't have a name nor be named.
The sound Lôbian machines know that if they are consistent, they have
to be incomplete, and they can have an idea of their fundamental
ignorance about truth.
Bruno
From: meekerdb <[email protected]>
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Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2014 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: generalizations_of_islam
On 10/2/2014 8:47 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Religion and spirituality are not barbaric, like medication are not
dangerous.
But the distinction between spirituality and religion is that
spirituality is personal, while it is part of the definition of
religion that it "binds together". One "belongs to" a religion. A
religion is defined by a set of dogma.
Brent
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