On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 12:10 AM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On 10/5/2014 10:35 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 03 Oct 2014, at 22:30, meekerdb wrote: > > The problem with theories of everything is that they are either too > difficult to test or have been found to conflict with observation. So > almost all scientists choose to chew on some more modest bite. > > > No problem. The point is that some theology or theory of everything are > testable. > > > But it was Plato who planted the idea that empirical testing is a waste. > Our senses deceive us, so we only need ratiocination to discern the Truth. > This would mean doubt entails truth. Right direction, but you drove the car straight off the cliff instead of choosing more scenic and nuanced route specified in the literature. > Which is why Plato was easily made to seem a Christian by St. Augustine. > > We might say that the history of physics is a sequence of refutation of > Aristotle physics, but only now, we have a refutation of his metaphysics > and theology. > Plato makes still sense, though, and is as much rational. > > > No, Plato would be a supporter of logicism or Tegmark's everythingism. > Here you presuppose that logicism is free of controversy. I'd say that Plato's attitude towards knowledge would land him on the Gödel side of these debates; thus also having more in common with Bruno's take than Tegmark's. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
