On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 12:10 AM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 10/5/2014 10:35 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 03 Oct 2014, at 22:30, meekerdb wrote: > > The problem with theories of everything is that they are either too > difficult to test or have been found to conflict with observation. So > almost all scientists choose to chew on some more modest bite. > > > No problem. The point is that some theology or theory of everything are > testable. > > > But it was Plato who planted the idea that empirical testing is a waste. > Our senses deceive us, so we only need ratiocination to discern the Truth. > This would mean doubt entails truth. Right direction, but you drove the car straight off the cliff instead of choosing more scenic and nuanced route specified in the literature. > Which is why Plato was easily made to seem a Christian by St. Augustine. > > We might say that the history of physics is a sequence of refutation of > Aristotle physics, but only now, we have a refutation of his metaphysics > and theology. > Plato makes still sense, though, and is as much rational. > > > No, Plato would be a supporter of logicism or Tegmark's everythingism. > Here you presuppose that logicism is free of controversy. I'd say that Plato's attitude towards knowledge would land him on the Gödel side of these debates; thus also having more in common with Bruno's take than Tegmark's. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
