On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 , Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]> wrote:

>> And what reason do you have to believe that consciousness has anything
>> to do with solving NP complete problems in polynomial time?
>>
>
> > I don't, and I didn't say that.
>

OK, so you don't have any reason to believe that consciousness has
something to do with solving NP complete problems in polynomial time. And I
agree with you, if it were otherwise we should be able to consciously solve
NP complete problems one hell of a lot better than we can.

> What I said if only you could read, is that what could render
> computationalism false is iff consciousness depends on a non-computable
> feature of reality
>

Obviously if you could show that consciousness, or anything else in nature
for that matter, was non-computable then computationalism would be false.
But non-computability is overkill, if you can just show that nature has the
ability to solve NP complete problems in polynomial time that alone would
be more than enough to prove that the Church-Turing Thesis is wrong. And if
donkeys could whistle then pigs could fly.

> NP problem *are* computable.
>

Yes, but not in polynomial time; our brains can't do it, our computers
can't do it, and there is not one scrap of evidence that nature can do it
either.

  John K Clark

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