On 11 Oct 2014, at 19:34, John Clark wrote:
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 2:53 PM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think you have to distinguish Bruno's use of "theology" here
from more conventional uses,
And why does Bruno like to use such very very
You exaggerate, and I guess you do so because you don't believe
yourself. Only a minority of strong atheists believe that God means
the christian god, and that theology means what the Roman Empire have
coerced to make us believe.
unconventional meanings of the word "theology"?
I can give you many references showing that is not the case, and,
actually, Jason Resh and others have already done so.
Nobody have problem with God being the roots of everything including
my first person, and everybody agree that talk on after-life, or
incarnation or reincarnation belongs to theology, in the large
original sense of the word.
Like many strong atheists, you don't want to abandon the definition of
the christians. You confirm all the time the theory that atheists are
the best defenders of the christians dogma.
Because he likes to throw the word back in the face of people known
for disliking theology. And why does Bruno insist on radically re-
engineering the meaning of the word "God"? Because he likes to make
the "God" noise with his mouth. Here is a little test, if you re-
engineer the meaning of the word X in such a way that absolutely
nobody could logically say "I don't believe in X" then you know that
your re-engineering has produced Bullshit.
Yeah, sure. So the axioms of elementary arithmetic is bullshit. Nice!
To save a lot of time and effort Bruno should simply swap the
meanings of the words "religious" and "atheist", then the following
sentence would be true:
"I am religious and the Pope is a atheist."
But of course such wordplay wouldn't effect the nature of reality
one iota.
> which is something like "believing that X is fundamental is an act
of faith."
Having a working hypothesis and believing in something so strongly
on faith alone that you're willing to put on a dynamite vest and get
on a crowded bus is not quite the same thing.
Yes, that is the difference between faith, science or religion, and
bad faith, pseudo-science and pseudo-religion.
In the first case you submit to peers, in an interrogative state of
mind, and in the second you use coercion, violence (verbal or
otherwise).
That attitude is domain independent.
Bruno
John K Clark
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