Hi Telmo, You wrote: "If I understand the ideas in Mitra's paper correctly, wouldn't it require that you yourself had forgotten about the discussion?"
That is what I thought at first as well and concluded that it was just a misremembering or delusion. But I could not shake how "well constructed the memory is. It was as if my memories somehow survived while all objective traces vanished. All the non-1p traces had vanished but all of the 1p content was still there. I have a suspicion as to how this might happen. I think that it may be evidence of part of Bruno's argument that we are not single computations. If our individual minds span over all of the brains that could implement them and each brain is tied into a single physical world, then so long as the "wipe" occurs only in some some of the physical worlds, then it is possible to "retain the memory". This implies a restricted form of computational universality - not all software can "run" on each and every piece of hardware - and that there may be a way of selecting what the software does by steering which hardware it is available to run on. In this way one can "control" the software without taking any direct action on it. This hypothesis makes sense to me as I am using a dualist ontology, minds and bodies are not one and the same "thing" or "process" - I reject Descartes' substance dualism - the isomorphism implied by the duality is not between individual minds (logical structures/algebras) and brains (topological spaces/groups), but between something more like quotient <http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/5104/quotienting-a-set-by-an-equivalence-relation-such-that-the-natural-projection-is> of adjoint categories <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functor_category>. I can't find a good mathematical description of the concept yet... On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 8:32 AM, Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Stephen Paul King < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Telmo, >> >> One event involved an email exchange that I has with two people. We >> where discussing theories of emergent space-time. Nothing really >> consequential. It didn't go anywhere as on of the persons said that I had >> to wait for his paper to be published for further information on his theory. >> Thing is, now the only evidence that I can find that the events >> happened are in my memory. All of the emails and so forth are gone, as if >> they where wiped clean from our reality. >> > > Thanks Stephen. > If I understand the ideas in Mitra's paper correctly, wouldn't it require > that you yourself had forgotten about the discussion? > > >> >> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 5:58 AM, Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Stephen, >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Stephen Paul King < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Brent, >>>> >>>> I have had a couple of experiences that proved to me that there >>>> exists something like the theist God. Things that I can not explain >>>> otherwise are some kind of "divine intervention" that saved my life. Could >>>> there be an explanation that is completely secular? >>>> >>> >>> Could it be explained by MWI + anthropic principle? You died in a large >>> number of branches, in the ones where you survived something very unlikely >>> necessarily happened? >>> >>> >>>> I am open to such, but its like arguing that something like the >>>> spontaneous unscrambling of an egg actually happened but one does not have >>>> a collection of unimpeachable witnesses available. >>>> >>> >>>> Ever you have an experience that is like Mitra's history rewrite >>>> idea http://arxiv.org/abs/0902.3825? I have! >>>> >>> >>> I love this idea and I bet on its validity. That being said, how can you >>> know you had such an experience? Could you elaborate? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Telmo. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, October 6, 2014 2:15:44 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Here's an interesting interview of a philosopher who is interested in >>>>> the question of >>>>> whether God exists. The interesting thing about it, for this list, is >>>>> that "God" is >>>>> implicitly the god of theism, and is not "one's reason for existence" >>>>> or "the unprovable >>>>> truths of arithmetic". >>>>> >>>>> Brent >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -------- Original Message -------- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/10/05/can- >>>>> wanting-to-believe-make-us-believers/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Gary Gutting: "This is the 12th and last in a series of interviews >>>>> about religion that I >>>>> am conducting for The Stone. The interviewee for this installment is >>>>> Daniel Garber, a >>>>> professor of philosophy at Princeton University, specializing in >>>>> philosophy and science in >>>>> the period of Galileo and Newton. In a week or two, I’ll conclude with >>>>> a wrap-up column on >>>>> the series." >>>>> >>>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> Daniel Garber: "Certainly there are serious philosophers who would >>>>> deny that the arguments >>>>> for the existence of God have been decisively refuted. But even so, my >>>>> impression is that >>>>> proofs for the existence of God have ceased to be a matter of serious >>>>> discussion outside >>>>> of the domain of professional philosophy of religion. And even there, >>>>> my sense is that the >>>>> discussions are largely a matter of academic interest: The real >>>>> passion has gone out of >>>>> the question." >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>> Google Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/everything-list/uxC9vWWQ0Ss/unsubscribe >>> . >>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Kindest Regards, >> >> Stephen Paul King >> >> Senior Researcher >> >> Mobile: (864) 567-3099 >> >> [email protected] >> >> http://www.provensecure.us/ >> >> “This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use >> of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain >> information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential and >> exempt from disclosure under applicable law or may be constituted as >> attorney work product. 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