On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 7:46 AM, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: > > >> I ask myself who would INSIST on using the word "God" (and not some >>> other word) >>> >> >> > Which one? I have suggested an other word, like the ONE, but you did >> not reply. >> > > If the "ONE" is supposed to mean the reason there is something rather than > nothing it might be confusing if it turns out, and it could, that there is > more than one thing responsible for that; it is also possible that the > "ONE" is equal to zero because nothing is responsible for it. > So you're open to possibility now in this context and trying to make humor out of it at least. You've been saved by "da Jesus" of Lebowskiism. You're welcome. > But if I did agree and thus freed up the word "God" for what nearly > everybody on the planet already means by it > Appeal to popular use shot down three times in posts last week. > would you also write a post to this list, also in all capital letters, > saying "THERE IS NO GOD"? I don't think you could ever bring yourself to > type that because you love the word G-O-D too much. > I don't even see how that follows, other than that it is some empty personal attack again. For the love of god John... > > > That is the key things in most neoplatonist theologies: God is not even >> a being. It does not exist as an object, nor a phenomenon. With simple >> logic, it cannot be omniscient, >> > > Forget omniscient, if Cosmologists are even close to being correct "God", > Why? Because they won prizes that make all developments/reasoning in theology throughout different cultures for centuries exclusively invalid? > the reason there is something rather than nothing, is not even as > intelligent as a worm and has less memory than one > You're the one that is so sure of it, then prove it. You sound more certain than most Christians. As much as we think we're independent and liberated from Christian cultural background: our model of marriage/procreation is centered around it, our concept of justice through prohibition and wrathful punishment using legal authority exercised by one power, sexuality and the perpetuated role models, the relation to work, working for merit/value determined by culture... Diehard atheist also swims in this soup and I rarely see them advocating greater liberality and independence from these models. So even in practice, hardcore atheist is just frightened Christian playing cop with other people's personal business, while staying naive to its broader, more fundamental impact on cultural psychology shared through daily mundane way we conduct business. > ; and I would maintain that virtually nobody means that when they use the > word "God", not even you except when you're arguing on this list about > religion with me. > Popular use justification again with appeal to inappropriate use. Hollywood flicks and 4 minute scenes treat theology in more mature fashion than this. PfffGC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
