On 11 November 2014 10:32, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote:

> LizR wrote:
>
>> OK, so are you saying that the formation of bound states like nucleons
>> has no bearing on the existence of an AOT?
>>
>
> It certainly doesn't play a role in the origin of the AoT. Formation of
> bound states is just a routine physical process that follows conventional
> dynamical laws, including the second law of thermodynamics. Since the
> second law governs these processes, they are subject to an AoT.
>
> You appear to be assuming the AOT in order to explain something that
emerged from a state in which there was no distinct AOT. The quark
soup starts in a high energy, essentially time-reversible state (any
nucleons that happen to form sill rapidly fall apart again) - how can the
2nd law apply at that point?

The 2nd law is emergent, as I think we all agree, and we're trying to
explain how it might have emerged from time-symmetric physics. The
transition from a plasma in which free quarks are interacting in an
essentially time symmetric manner to a cloud of nucleons looks like a step
on the way to doing that.

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