On 11 November 2014 13:39, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> In other words, the gravitational entropy would rise. I agree. And I agree
> that the second law applies to states in low entropy, as flat space-time
> clearly is. The flatness of space-time needs to be explained, but that
> isn't the whole story. I'm discussing whether the expansion turning the q-g
> plasma into bound states could contribute to the AOT that we experience,
> given that we're made from those bound states and live off energy generated
> from them inside stars.
>
> These are straightforward physical process that obey the second law.
>
Physical processes obey the laws of physics. The 2nd law isn't a law of
physics.

> The AoT exists regardless of such processes.
>
I don't see how. The expansion made a state with no AOT turn into one that
had one, by cooling the plasma to the point where a phase transition could
occur.

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