LizR wrote:
On 11 November 2014 13:39, Bruce Kellett <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


    In other words, the gravitational entropy would rise. I agree. And I
    agree that the second law applies to states in low entropy, as flat
    space-time clearly is. The flatness of space-time needs to be
    explained, but that isn't the whole story. I'm discussing whether
    the expansion turning the q-g plasma into bound states could
    contribute to the AOT that we experience, given that we're made from
    those bound states and live off energy generated from them inside stars.

    These are straightforward physical process that obey the second law.

Physical processes obey the laws of physics. The 2nd law isn't a law of physics.

Tell that to the marines!!!!



    The AoT exists regardless of such processes.

I don't see how. The expansion made a state with no AOT turn into one that had one, by cooling the plasma to the point where a phase transition could occur.

No, we have gone as far as we can on this  -- and you are wrong.

Bruce

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