LizR wrote:
Well, yes, I knew someone would mention that when I typed it! And yes, I agree, the Beckenstein bound implies that - although isn't that dealing with information, rather than quantum states (leaving aside any it-from-bitness, at least) ? Or maybe the two are equivalent.

I'm not sure how (or if) Max got around that one when he did his calculation of the distance of the nearest duplicate, but given that the answer came out as something like 10 ^ 10 ^ 28 metres, that makes the surface area to volume ratio awfully low for any sphere enclosing both... Max also calculates the distance to the nearest identical 100-lightyear sphere and nearest identical Hubble volume, and it looks to me as though he's assuming 3D space operates as Euclidean geometry would predict. To be exact, he says that
    These are extremely conservative estimates, derived simply by
    counting all possible quantum states that a Hubble volume can have
    if it is no hotter than 10^8 kelvins. One way to do the calculation
    is to ask how many protons could be packed into a Hubble volume at
    that temperature. The answer is 10^118 protons. Each of those
    particles may or may not, in fact, be present, which makes for
    2^10^118 possible arrangements of protons. A box containing that
many Hubble volumes exhausts all the possibilities.
FYI the article is here
http://space.mit.edu/home/tegmark/PDF/multiverse_sciam.pdf

Whatever the merits of that argument, it has little to do with the maximum possible entropy. Rember, that occurs when all of the mass/energy is in the form of black holes.

Bruce

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