What is your thoughts on The Electrical Universe theory: https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/
Samiya > On 13-Nov-2014, at 9:24 am, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> On 12 Nov 2014, at 22:20, LizR wrote: >> >>> On 13 November 2014 06:46, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> On 12 Nov 2014, at 16:10, Peter Sas wrote: >>>> >>>> Does anybody know this paper: >>>> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221268641300037X >>> >>> It is pleasant to read, but I will wait what others can add, if it is >>> really more than a variant of the vacuum fluctuation approach. >>> >>> It cannot satisfy a theorician of mind, who assumes the computationalist >>> hypothesis, because it assumes: >>> >>> 1) the quantum description of the physical reality, >>> 2) a primary physical reality. >> >> I will try to have a look but you just bumped it down my reading list. It >> sounds like it starts off already high up the ontological tree and hence >> isn't really addressing what it claims to (Also, anything on CEN which >> doesn't mention ToN in the credits is off to a bad start, IMHO). > > > Yes, but it is frequent with physicists. They just work in the frame of the > Aristotelian metaphysics/theology. They take the physical universe for > granted, so "nothing" means some physical nothingness. With QM, the physical > nothingness is already Turing-Universal, so they assume a particular > universal system, and they induce it from observation. But with > computationalism, and the mind-body problem in mind, we need to explain why > it seems some universal system took an importance in the observable realm. > Obviously the author just ignore the mind-body problem, or the 1p/3p relation > problem, but he is far from being alone: it is a tradition since more than > 1500 years. > > Bruno > > >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

