On 13 Nov 2014, at 10:07, Samiya Illias wrote:
What is your thoughts on The Electrical Universe theory:
https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/
I don't see much of a theory there. Anyway, if we are machine, then
electricity must be explained from something non-physical. The book by
Stenger illustrate that it can be done once we have a notion of space
and time, and the quantum principle. I have derive the quantum
principle, (and consciousness) but not yet space and time, which are
*much* more difficult to derive. It might take centuries.
Bruno
Samiya
On 13-Nov-2014, at 9:24 am, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
On 12 Nov 2014, at 22:20, LizR wrote:
On 13 November 2014 06:46, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
On 12 Nov 2014, at 16:10, Peter Sas wrote:
Does anybody know this paper:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221268641300037X
It is pleasant to read, but I will wait what others can add, if it
is really more than a variant of the vacuum fluctuation approach.
It cannot satisfy a theorician of mind, who assumes the
computationalist hypothesis, because it assumes:
1) the quantum description of the physical reality,
2) a primary physical reality.
I will try to have a look but you just bumped it down my reading
list. It sounds like it starts off already high up the ontological
tree and hence isn't really addressing what it claims to (Also,
anything on CEN which doesn't mention ToN in the credits is off to
a bad start, IMHO).
Yes, but it is frequent with physicists. They just work in the
frame of the Aristotelian metaphysics/theology. They take the
physical universe for granted, so "nothing" means some physical
nothingness. With QM, the physical nothingness is already Turing-
Universal, so they assume a particular universal system, and they
induce it from observation. But with computationalism, and the mind-
body problem in mind, we need to explain why it seems some
universal system took an importance in the observable realm.
Obviously the author just ignore the mind-body problem, or the 1p/
3p relation problem, but he is far from being alone: it is a
tradition since more than 1500 years.
Bruno
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