On 24 Nov 2014, at 07:45, John Clark wrote:
> A.I. is no closer than it was 20 or 30 or 40 years ago.
Of one thing I am certain, someday computers will become more
intelligent than any human who ever lived using any measure of
intelligence you care to name. And I am even more certain that we
are 20 years closer to that day than we were 20 years ago.
You mean they will be more competent? Yes, and more stupid too, as
competence has a negative feedback on intelligence. Humans illustrates
that well. May be intelligence can only decrease, and virgin universal
machine are at their top of intelligence.
> But what is new and big is Big Data. But Big Data does not involve
theories of A.I. nor efforts. it's about taking very large sets of
paired data and converging by some basic rule to a single thing.
This is how translation services work.
Well... Big Data computers are artificial and good translation
requires intelligence, so why in the world isn't that AI.
> Big Data does not involve theories of A.I
I think it very unlikely that the secret to intelligence is some
grand equation you could put on a teashirt, it's probably 1001
little hacks and kludges that all add up to something big.
That confirms you define intelligence by competence, then I can be OK
with this. But competence is domain dependent, and for most general
domain, the order contains many incomparable degrees.
Bruno
> It's very large sets of translations of sentences, and sentence
components, simply rehashed for best fit
Simply? Is convoluted better than simple? Are you saying that if we
can explain how it works then it can't be intelligent?
> It actually works fairly adequately for most translation needs.
Which would be great, except this: The Big Data system is not
independent at any point. Every day there needs to be a huge scrape
of the translations performed by human translators.
And human beings move from being mediocre translators to being very
good translators by observing how great translators do it.
> Human translation professions are in a state of freefall. There
used to be a career structure with rising income and security and
status. Now there isn't.
Translation certainly won't be the last profession where machines
become better at there job than any human; and I predict that the
next time it happens somebody will try to find a excuse for it just
like you did and say "Yes a machine is a better poet or surgeon or
joke writer or physicists than I am but it doesn't really count
because (insert lame excuse here)".
John K Clark
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