On 6 December 2014 at 05:20, Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 8:06 AM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> On 12/4/2014 8:05 PM, LizR wrote:
>>
>>> I suspect that Bruno is differentiating physical existence from primary
>>> existence.
>>>
>>
>> What's the difference?  Isn't physical existence the paradigmatic case?
>> the example we point to when asked to define "exits"?
>>
>
> Not wanting to bypass Bruno's more sophisticated explanations, I tend to
> equate "physical existence" with the idea of something existing
> independently of an observer. Or, to put it another way, taking 3p reality
> seriously. No?
>
> Yes. The distinction is between what we are aware of existing (and
continuing to exist in our absence) and a hypothetical substrate from which
the physical world may or may not emerge. The mathematical universe
hypothesis and comp being obvious candidates for a non physical primary
reality.

I'm afraid Brent is basically trolling, because he's well aware of this
distinction.

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