On 8 December 2014 at 03:31, Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 2:27 AM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 6 December 2014 at 05:20, Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 8:06 AM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> On 12/4/2014 8:05 PM, LizR wrote: >>>> >>>>> I suspect that Bruno is differentiating physical existence from >>>>> primary existence. >>>>> >>>> >>>> What's the difference? Isn't physical existence the paradigmatic case? >>>> the example we point to when asked to define "exits"? >>>> >>> >>> Not wanting to bypass Bruno's more sophisticated explanations, I tend to >>> equate "physical existence" with the idea of something existing >>> independently of an observer. Or, to put it another way, taking 3p reality >>> seriously. No? >>> >>> Yes. The distinction is between what we are aware of existing (and >> continuing to exist in our absence) and a hypothetical substrate from which >> the physical world may or may not emerge. The mathematical universe >> hypothesis and comp being obvious candidates for a non physical primary >> reality. >> >> I'm afraid Brent is basically trolling, because he's well aware of this >> distinction. >> > > I don't think he's doing so malevolently. My impression is that he resists > what he perceives as "groupthink". I don't agree but I can respect this > type of position. > Asking "what's the difference?" about something he already knows is being deliberately provocative, in my opinion. He didn't say "I don't think there is a difference" (which is probably true). He knows that these concepts are separated out for the purposes of discussion, and what the difference between them is. I don't think it's "malevolent" - that is an over the top word to use. It's aggressive and faux-naif, though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
