On 10 Dec 2014, at 19:08, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
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Subject: Re: real A.I.
On 09 Dec 2014, at 18:53, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
wrote:
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] On Behalf Of Telmo Menezes
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:09 AM
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Subject: Re: real A.I.
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:49 AM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
On 8 December 2014 at 23:36, Telmo Menezes <[email protected]>
wrote:
You can notice the subtle change in the meaning of being a
"skeptic". The original meaning is very close to "agnostic" but it
has been slowly sliding into a strong preference for common sense,
which is to say, the belief of the majority.
Yes that seems possible, indeed likely. Also it gets kidnapped by
"climate change sceptics" and suchlike,
I would say that anyone who labels themselves as "X skeptics" are
already missing the point. Skepticism is a general attitude towards
knowledge.
who are using it in the "postmodern" sense that loosely translates
as "you can't prove X 100% therefore not-X is 'just as valid'."
Is this really the prevalent argument from climate change
disbelievers?
It certainly seems so based on a sampling of their output. The MO of
climate skeptics – in my experience -- is to grab on to some anomaly
or discrepancy in some dataset (or some puffed up sinister sounding
largely made up scandal, such as Climategate for example). Giving
them a toe hold to launch into an attack on the entire edifice of
climate science based on some cherry picked data. Often it is
anecdotal data – say an unusually cold winter… anything that can
make good copy and sow doubt in scientifically illiterate minds.
I see little scientific rigor, or intellectual honesty, operating
within the skeptic community; seems to me mostly made up of
political operatives and PR marketing spin types that only deals in
convenient cherry picked facts (ignoring broad swaths of data) and
that often merely incestuously repeats baseless accusations that
reverberate around the many Kock brother funded archipelago of
astroturf organizations. (An American expression for fake grass
roots organizations – e.g. astroturf being fake grass. Grass roots
organization, is another American expression for spontaneously
rising broad based movements arising as a genuine expression of the
people’s will.)
Climate skepticism is more of a political phenomenon, funded largely
by powerful fossil energy interests that are acting to preserve the
future value of their large carbon holdings.
-Chris
Henri Ford already asked why using unsustainable plant cadaver
instead of sustainable hemp, as we did up to that point. The answer
has been given by a conspiracy which has been able to make us all
believe that hemp, the most cultivated plant ever, was a "dangerous
drug" which should be made illegal everywhere on the planet. The oil
industry, together with the pharma-industry, is build on lies from
the very start. Hemp has been made illegal the day the first
industrial hemp handling machine was build.
It also competed with the paper pulp industry, hemp makes superior
paper by the way… the US Constitution is written on hemp paper.
Yes, anyone can verify in any library (with enough old books) that the
books of last centuries last longer than the book of the 20th
centuries. We use Hemp for paper since a long time, and the cost is
much less than with wood. The wood industry was part of the collusion.
The steal industry too. Hemp was virtually a powerful competitor for
all derivative of oil, at much less cost.
I found once a video showing the interview of old people who voted for
the illegalisation of marijuana confessing they did not know that it
was hemp. Indeed, even at that time, people knew that it is easy to
produce hemp without psychotropic quality. It was a total set up to
impose petrol on the market.
I just saw an ad for an electric car made in Hemp. Looks nice, but I
would prefer it uses hemp fuel, for the principle.
Marijuana is legal, now, where I live in Washington state.
It is very nice. I hope the feds will eventually stop the criminal
comedy. I still don't understand how hemp has been made illegal so
quickly in *all* countries around the world. That seems still unsolved
to me.
Bruno
-Chris
Bruno
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