On 12/8/2014 2:59 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 08 Dec 2014, at 04:55, John Clark wrote:
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 6:16 AM, Samiya Illias <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> As a person who takes the Quran literally, I'm not at all surprised as it
is
stated that the ancients had been given much more, and we haven't been
given a
tenth of what they had.
Think what you're saying! At one time the human race was knowledgeable enough to
construct the Antikythera Mechanism, but 200 years after it was made Jesus was born and
started a major world religion, and 630 years after Jesus Mohamed was born and started
another major world religious; and by the time Mohamed died we'd lost over 90% of
our smarts. Actually there is some truth in what you say, certainly during
Mohamed's lifetime nobody on the planet knew how to make something like the Antikythera
Mechanism, a device that was made nearly a thousand years before.
I said it before I'll sat it again, religion makes people stupid.
Not religion, but the imposition of a religion to others, whatever that religion is. But
that is made possible by the separation of religion from science, which is a way to
accept the lack of rigor and the use of the argument-per-authority in the field of
theology. Strong atheists want to keep up that separation, which perpetuates the
institutionalized religious nonsense.
You have never refute my argument that (strong) atheism is de facto ally with the
Churches against reason. In fact they too try to impose their religious beliefs on
other, with the aggravating factor that they pretend not to be religious.
Atheists have no "religious beliefs" except that there is no personal god who judges and
answers prayers... that's the literal meaning of a-theist. It is a word that is only
useful because the default assumption is that everyone is a theist. We don't need the
word "a-leprechaunist" or "a-voodooist" or "a-unicornist" because the default assumption
is that people don't believe those fairy tales. Atheists try to "impose their beliefs"
the same way you do, by rational argument and empirical observation. Twenty six states in
the U.S. have provisions in their constitutions that prohibit atheists from holding
political office. No atheist has ever voted for or proposed a law to prohibit theists
from holding office.
Brent
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