Telmo: as happens often, you have been cristal clear, only by rescuing some categories from the doxa of street talking. It is a pity that, for some other issues, the categories are so immerse in the mud of modernity babble that it is impossible to talk rationally. Some day we will progrees even to the level of the greek philosophers again.
2014-12-09 17:50 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes <[email protected]>: > > > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 4:30 PM, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:22 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>>> At one time the human race was knowledgeable enough to construct the >>>>>>> Antikythera Mechanism, but 200 years after it was made Jesus was born >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> started a major world religion, and 630 years after Jesus Mohamed was >>>>>>> born >>>>>>> and started another major world religious; and by the time Mohamed died >>>>>>> we'd lost over 90% of our smarts. Actually there is some truth in what >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> say, certainly during Mohamed's lifetime nobody on the planet knew how >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> make something like the Antikythera Mechanism, a device that was >>>>>>> made nearly a thousand years before. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> I said it before I'll sat it again, religion makes people stupid. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> Not religion, but the imposition of a religion to others >>>>> >>>> >>>> >> Until just a couple of centuries ago the 2 things were virtually >>>> synonymous, and even today it remains true for hundreds of millions of >>>> people, especially in the Islamic world. >>>> >>> >>> > Yes, but the same for science. >>> >> >> Oh yes science is just as intolerant as religion, throughout the >> centuries many thousands have been burned to death at the stake for denying >> that the logarithm of 42 is 1.6232492904. And don't forget the bloody >> wars fought between the base 10 adherents and the natural logarithm >> faithful. >> > > Science and religion are not people, they are concepts. So they are not > tolerant or intolerant. People can be tolerant or intolerant in the name of > concepts. Have people been extremely intolerant in the name of science? > Sure. Both nazism and stalinism are notorious examples. > > >> >> >>> >>> >> Let me see if I understand you correctly, you believe I have not >>>> spent enough time refuting your monumentally silly "argument" that atheist >>>> is just a slight variation of Christianity. Did I get that right >>>> >>>> > Yes. Just saying "silly" is not an argument. >>> >> >> The word "silly" is the only argument the "atheism is just a slight >> variation of Christianity" idea deserves. >> >> >>> > most strong atheists believe in primary matter in a dogmatic way. >>> >> >> And the only comment the above deserves is "gibberish". >> >> John K Clark >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Alberto. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
