From: John Clark <[email protected]>
 To: [email protected] 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 10:51 AM
 Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory 
to dialectics?
   

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 5:05 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
 
> you are obsessed with the christian or abramanic God, but I use the term in 
> its original sense given by Plato, where God is the ultimate reality.
 Ultimate reality? What would make one reality more real than another? To a 
physicist pressure is a perfectly real concept, and the idea that pressure 
makes a balloon expand is true. And the concept that a million billion trillion 
gas molecules are pushing on the inside of a balloon making it expand is also 
true. Both ideas exist and both are true, so why is one idea more real than 
another?

But isn't it also true that in this case "pressure" is actually an emergent 
phenomenon resulting form the accumulated effect of the trillions upon 
trillions of gas molecules careening into each other and into the atoms 
comprising the inner surface of the balloon... and that the force of these 
countless interactions is what emerges as the phenomenon we measure as 
pressure?-Chris


 > This is useful to realize that the question "is god a person or a thing" is 
 > an open problem.

The open question is rather mundane, it is what the English 3 letter word 
"G-O-D" means. In my personal opinion if you mean something that is not 
omniscient not omnipotent not omnipresent not conscious is as dumb as a stump 
and is not even a being it would only be good manners to use a word other than 
God as that word is already taken for something else. 



  John K Clark
 
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