On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 9:57 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy < multiplecit...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Samiya Illias <samiyaill...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> >> >> >>> This theologian stays true to more scientific attitude of ignorance in >>> face of the unknown. >>> >>> Alhazen described his theology: "I constantly sought knowledge and >>> truth, and it became my belief that for gaining access to the effulgence >>> and closeness to God, there is no better way than that of searching for >>> truth and knowledge." >>> >> >> That is prescribed by the Quran. It directs us to use our intelligence, >> > > Not if it deviates from scripture. And to my knowledge Alhazen's > contribution to mathematics/physics, and optics in particular were not in > scripture. He searched and found glimpses of god/reality outside of the > scripture. > > >> it directs us to pray for more knowledge, >> > > Can search be a less passive/rigid form of prayer? > > >> and it states that, on that day, the truthful are going to benefit from >> their truth. >> > > Respectfully, to me, that's waiting around for god/truth, when perhaps it > is already here. Another reason why strong form of literalism can imply > lack of faith and hide laziness. Kierkegaard complained about this with his > own Religion, the Christians. Maybe all religions suffer from this as there > is vanity in assuming to know what god wants from us. > > Alhazen did use "search", being aware of the meaning of prayer, one would > assume. And search points towards a humility and ignorance of god's will, > despite doing our best in matters faith, which is more flexible and thus > allows a broader question of how to approach truth, without presupposing > that we know what it is. And without minimizing the arrogance that walks > with vanity too. > That's "without" is superfluous and should be deleted in the last phrase. Apologies for potential confusion. PGC > > I don't see how your approach is clarified, particularly in addressing the > problem of insulting other people's search by insisting on your particular > interpretation, and the implied argument per authority constructs/certainty > etc. Your approach is thus still obscure to me. PGC > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.