On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 9:57 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy <
multiplecit...@gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Samiya Illias <samiyaill...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>>> This theologian stays true to more scientific attitude of ignorance in
>>> face of the unknown.
>>>
>>> Alhazen described his theology: "I constantly sought knowledge and
>>> truth, and it became my belief that for gaining access to the effulgence
>>> and closeness to God, there is no better way than that of searching for
>>> truth and knowledge."
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>> That is prescribed by the Quran. It directs us to use our intelligence,
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> Not if it deviates from scripture. And to my knowledge Alhazen's
> contribution to mathematics/physics, and optics in particular were not in
> scripture. He searched and found glimpses of god/reality outside of the
> scripture.
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>> it directs us to pray for more knowledge,
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> Can search be a less passive/rigid form of prayer?
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>> and it states that, on that day, the truthful are going to benefit from
>> their truth.
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> Respectfully, to me, that's waiting around for god/truth, when perhaps it
> is already here. Another reason why strong form of literalism can imply
> lack of faith and hide laziness. Kierkegaard complained about this with his
> own Religion, the Christians. Maybe all religions suffer from this as there
> is vanity in assuming to know what god wants from us.
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> Alhazen did use "search", being aware of the meaning of prayer, one would
> assume. And search points towards a humility and ignorance of god's will,
> despite doing our best in matters faith, which is more flexible and thus
> allows a broader question of how to approach truth, without presupposing
> that we know what it is. And without minimizing the arrogance that walks
> with vanity too.
>

That's "without" is superfluous and should be deleted in the last phrase.
Apologies for potential confusion. PGC


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> I don't see how your approach is clarified, particularly in addressing the
> problem of insulting other people's search by insisting on your particular
> interpretation, and the implied argument per authority constructs/certainty
> etc. Your approach is thus still obscure to me. PGC
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