On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 9:57 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy < [email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Samiya Illias <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> >> >> >>> This theologian stays true to more scientific attitude of ignorance in >>> face of the unknown. >>> >>> Alhazen described his theology: "I constantly sought knowledge and >>> truth, and it became my belief that for gaining access to the effulgence >>> and closeness to God, there is no better way than that of searching for >>> truth and knowledge." >>> >> >> That is prescribed by the Quran. It directs us to use our intelligence, >> > > Not if it deviates from scripture. And to my knowledge Alhazen's > contribution to mathematics/physics, and optics in particular were not in > scripture. He searched and found glimpses of god/reality outside of the > scripture. > > >> it directs us to pray for more knowledge, >> > > Can search be a less passive/rigid form of prayer? > > >> and it states that, on that day, the truthful are going to benefit from >> their truth. >> > > Respectfully, to me, that's waiting around for god/truth, when perhaps it > is already here. Another reason why strong form of literalism can imply > lack of faith and hide laziness. Kierkegaard complained about this with his > own Religion, the Christians. Maybe all religions suffer from this as there > is vanity in assuming to know what god wants from us. > > Alhazen did use "search", being aware of the meaning of prayer, one would > assume. And search points towards a humility and ignorance of god's will, > despite doing our best in matters faith, which is more flexible and thus > allows a broader question of how to approach truth, without presupposing > that we know what it is. And without minimizing the arrogance that walks > with vanity too. > That's "without" is superfluous and should be deleted in the last phrase. Apologies for potential confusion. PGC > > I don't see how your approach is clarified, particularly in addressing the > problem of insulting other people's search by insisting on your particular > interpretation, and the implied argument per authority constructs/certainty > etc. Your approach is thus still obscure to me. PGC > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

