On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 5:16 AM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy <
multiplecit...@gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 10:34 PM, Samiya Illias <samiyaill...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> On 01-Feb-2015, at 1:57 am, Platonist Guitar Cowboy <
>> multiplecit...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>  Kierkegaard complained about this with his own Religion, the Christians.
>> Maybe all religions suffer from this as there is vanity in assuming to know
>> what god wants from us.
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>> I believe that Quran is from God, hence I try to follow it. You ask me
>> questions and I try to answer them. Sometimes, yes, I also volunteer to
>> share some verse which I find relevant to my perspective of something being
>> discussed. Is that vanity or just sharing of knowledge?
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> Good question.
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> If somebody keeps insisting on literal interpretation, then it's hard to
> see how they could "volunteer" things in innocent, benevolent fashion to
> enrich the varied perspectives of respected others. They have a literal
> interpretation, so they have an obvious mission, which involves forcing the
> others to see what they see. The "others" would not be respected, hence the
> relation of literal interpretation to insult.
>

1) I do not disrespect you or anyone else, neither in mind nor vocally.
Please know that.
2) So if Bruno is insisting on comp, is he insulting you and others on this
list? I don't think so. If John Mikes insists on 'I dunno', is he insulting
those who have faith? I don't think so. I mention them not to single them
out, but to point out that it is okay to have some convictions or not, yet
it is important that one speaks one's own truth instead of just stating
things that would be pleasing to others.
3) If you find my faith insulting to your thoughts, then why do you ask
questions from me? You could simply ignore what I write. There is no
compulsion on you or anyone to read what I write.

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> Volunteer is like offering. It marks respect. Advancing literal
> interpretation is more like a person screaming their message with a
> megaphone (and if literal interpretation, why not force, punish, or
> manipulate others to believe, as one assumes oneself to be as correct as
> god/truth/reality?).
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Simply because that is not how faith enters the heart. Its an individual
choice, and God blesses with faith whoever He finds willing faith. Its not
to us humans to know what is in others' heart, nor is it for us to force
anyone to faith. However, because of our lack of knowledge of others'
willingness or lack of it, we are advised to share the Quranic message. May
be some heart is willing faith and my sharing of the Quran will help them
in their quest. See if this helps:
http://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2014/08/divine-will-and-human-free-will.html


Samiya



> Indeed, the latter kind of person also "offers" in some sense, I guess. PGC
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