2015-02-04 20:00 GMT+01:00 meekerdb <[email protected]>: > On 2/4/2015 1:09 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > So I agree completely that there are levels of consciousness, as there > level of carness, but there is a level (whatever it is) which when you're > below it, there is no more consciousness... like when it's 0 it's 0, it's > no more positive, whatever word play you want to do. > > > Notice though that you have to keep resorting to this qualification > "whatever it is", which tells me that it's arbitrary and just a matter of > words, that there's no principled dichotomy. It means you can make-up a > definition for the line, but it's just a way of defining the word not a > sharp operational distinction. > > No it means there is a distinction... there is a line between 0 and positive number, no positive number is 0... no consciousness == 0, consciousness > 0... unless you argue there is no state of "not consciousness" this holds true.
> But in any case I think it's more important to recognize that there can be > qualitatively different kinds of intelligence and hence there may be > qualitatively different kinds of consciousness. > We did acknowledge this several times now... that doesn't preclude "not consciousness" state, it is not because there is a lot of consciousness state, that pure "not consciousness" does not exists... unless you argue everything is conscious, in that case ok, consciousness/non consciousness would not be a binary dichotomy... but then a rock has a consciousness, which seems rather absurd. Quentin > So the line between black and white "whatever it is" doesn't tell you > where green and red fall. > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. (Roy Batty/Rutger Hauer) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
