On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 5:12 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List < [email protected]> wrote:
> Well, here's a thought. Intelligence/Consciousness as humans experience > needs lots and lots of spindle cells, or something manufactured that > imitates it. This is neurobiology, and thus, materialism. Could there be > other things that do what spindle cells do? Yes. I mean, there could be gas > clouds or boltzmann brains doing thinking way above our pay grade. But back > down to earth, we need spindle cells. > > Spindle cells appear to just be shortcuts between more distant brain regions. I don't think there's anything particularly special special about them, they appear in animals with very large brains. Jason > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Clark <[email protected]> > To: everything-list <[email protected]> > Sent: Sat, Mar 7, 2015 10:25 pm > Subject: Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness > > > > On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 5:33 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I like Graziano's theory of consciousness. >> > > He says consciousness is just another name for attention, but computers > have been paying attention to some things and not others form almost as > long as they've existed. For example the LHC produces nearly a billion > particle collisions per second and each collision produces about one > megabyte of data, so you'd need 200,000 DVDs each second the LHC is in > operation to store that much information, and it's designed to be in > operation 20 hours a day 300 days a year. Even a computer can't remember > all that, Instead the computers looks at each collision and quickly decides > if there is anything that *might* be worthy of its attention and remembers > only them. > > So out of the billion collisions each second the computer only remembers > and pays attention to what happened in about 200 collisions, all the other > data is just thrown away. Even so that's still a HUGE amount of information > to store. There is always the possibility you're throwing away something > important but there is no alternative, you just can't keep it all. > > > under Graziano's theory it's a way of augmenting or improving >> intelligence within constraints of limited computational resources. > > > Is so then it would be easier to make a intelligent conscious computer > than a intelligent non-conscious computer. > > John K Clark > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
