On Monday, March 9, 2015, meekerdb <[email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
> On 3/8/2015 3:34 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > > > On Monday, March 9, 2015, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 3/8/2015 1:26 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: >> >>> On 8 March 2015 at 09:33, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I like Graziano's theory of consciousness. >>>> >>>> http://aeon.co/magazine/philosophy/how-consciousness-works/ >>>> >>>> I have generally been inclined to agree with JKC that natural selection >>>> can't act on consciousness, only on intelligence; so consciousness is >>>> either >>>> a necessary byproduct of intelligence or it's a spandrel. But under >>>> Graziano's theory it's a way of augmenting or improving intelligence >>>> within >>>> constraints of limited computational resources. So it would be subject >>>> to >>>> natural selection. It also shows how to make intelligence machines >>>> without >>>> consciousness (albeit less efficient ones). >>>> >>> Graziano equates consciousness with a model of the brain's state of >>> attention, but why couldn't this be done by an unconscious machine? >>> >> >> Because doing it makes the machine conscious. > > > It might, but as presented it's begging he question. > > > It proposes an architecture for computation that would realize > consciousness. It's something that, in principle at least, could be > constructed and one could interact with it and determine whether it seemed > as conscious as you or I. What would you consider a non-question begging > theory? > A proof that that kind of architecture necessarily realises consciousness. -- Stathis Papaioannou -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
