On 12 Mar 2015, at 17:25, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Yes. In philosophy of mind, "materialism" is usually used for saying matter, and only matter. Matter exists, and all the rest emerge from the laws of elementary conceptually material objects (fields, waves, particles, strings, ...).
And here I forget to say, that in this list, materialism is often taken in the weaker sense that the belief in primary matter/or (up to a slight nuance) physicalism. Liz said this, I agree.
Matter is often taken for granted, unconsciously by some people, and the preponderant paradigm those days, among scientists, philosophers and theologians. But the evidences adds that this is should not be taken for *granted*.
I think that science is born from taking distance between identifying the real from what we see. Aristotle was a coming back to the bad habit: a very long tradition of oversimplifying the problems. That good theoretical practice, but when a theory becomes a dogma, it never helps.
Computationalism (YD+TC) suggest, at the least, a rational different picture: no physical reality, but the incredible tricks that universal numbers can do to themselves, in arithmetic, with the help or not of oracles, but with the unavoidable role of some random oracle, the halting oracle, etc. The roots of the delusion is in their heads, in a verifiable way.
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