On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 5:05 PM, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >> I am claiming that when I receive anesthesia I become both >>> unintelligent and non-conscious. I am also claiming that when any of my >>> fellow human beings receive a anesthesia they behave unintelligently, but I >>> can make no conclusion of any sort regarding the effect the drug has on >>> their consciousness UNLESS I assume that the Turing Test is valid and >>> Darwin's Theory of Evolution is true. >>> >> >> > Why don't you just ask them if they were conscious during the >> anaesthesia? Or don't third party personal reports count as evidence in >> your scheme? > > > Third party personal reports count just fine *PROVIDED* you assume as I > do that the Turing Test is valid > The Turing test is meant to test human-level intelligence, not consciousness. > and Darwin's Theory of Evolution is true. > Darwin's Theory of Evolution is about the origin of biological species, not consciousness. There are more hidden assumptions here that you are not addressing. Telmo. > But if you don't make that assumption like so many on this list then > behavior, including lack of behavior, of third parties tells you absolutely > nothing about their consciousness. > > John K Clark > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
