On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 7:00 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:

>  On 3/13/2015 10:26 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
>    or under anesthesia I'm not conscious
>>
>
>  You can't prove that. That's an assumption.
>
>
> That's logic chopping.  There's a big gap between proven and assumed.  In
> fact all of science works in that gap.  It's called "knowledge" and it is
> provided by evidence, not logic and not assumption.
>

I agree, "prove" was a horrible choice of words.

What I meant to say is that you can't test for consciousness. You can test
for things that you assume to be sufficient and necessary conditions for
consciousness, but you can't test this assumption itself.

Carl Sagan talks about the "dragon in the garage". I feel that
consciousness is unlike any other phenomena, because it is the "dragon in
the garage" that we *know* is there.

Telmo.


>
> Brent
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