On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 , Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> wrote: >> True, and most people have never even heard of the Turing Test, but >> every human being who has ever lived has implicitly assumed that if >> something behaves intelligently then it is conscious, >> > > > Perhaps every human, perhaps most. Who knows? >
Who knows? I know. Some silly philosophers may have fun playing the part of a solipsist when they want to sound provocative and interesting, but I don't think for one second they or anyone else this side of a looney bin actually believes they're the only conscious being in the universe. > > I was always confused by the idea that rocks are not conscious. > And I don't believe that for one second either, I think you're just trying to sound provocative and interesting. >> Darwin's Theory of Evolution is about everything life can do, if you're >> alive and you're conscious then Evolution is responsible for both. >> > > > Humans apply pressure on the floor when standing up, so Evolution is > responsible for mass and gravity? > No, but Evolution is responsible for the fact that humans can stand up, or that humans can do anything at all for that matter > >>> There are more hidden assumptions here that you are not addressing. >>> >> >> >> List them then. I'm all ears. >> > > > The assumptions that consciousness is something organisms do, > That is not an assumption that is a matter of direct experience and thus needs no proof; I am a organism and I am conscious. > that conscious is a byproduct of something > If Darwin was correct then the above must be true. And I think Darwin was correct. > > that consciousness is generated somehow, > When I'm asleep or under anesthesia I'm not conscious but when I wake up I am, so at that point a generator must turn on that somehow produces consciousness. > > that conscious either has an evolutionary advantage or emerges from > things that have evolutionary advantages. > As I've said over and over and over, if Darwin was right the above MUST be true. And you said "there are *more* hidden assumptions here that you are not addressing" so I was expecting something new, but you just rehashed the same old tired objections I've been hearing on this list for years. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
