On 20 Mar 2015, at 11:43 am, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On 3/19/2015 5:18 PM, Kim Jones wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Critics exist to criticise, to provide critiques (opinions) and make 
>> criticisms of existing ideas.
> 
> That's the general meaning, but art critics also praise.  In fact it seems 
> that their main function is to tell us how and what to think about what we 
> might otherwise dismiss with, "WTF?"
> 
> Brent
> 

So when they are doing that, they are not exercising the critical function at 
all and have put on a different coloured Hat, yes. Excellence in criticism 
might be better termed "Appreciation" or, "how to appreciate something 
borrowing my perception for the exercise". This might include, but by no means 
be limited to, noting a few negative points since nothing is perfect. Well, 
only nothing is perfect. 

Don't forget, the word "critical" does Have two meanings and people sometimes 
intentionally confuse them because you can. "Critical" often gets used sloppily 
to mean "extremely important in some sense" yet it really denotes a negatively 
judgemental state of mind. "Critical" comes from the Greek "kritikos" which 
means "judge". So, critical thinking is judgement thinking and that is the 
usual meaning of the word despite the existence of doubtless a few gay critics.

Critical, judgemental thinking is best applied at the end of the thinking 
process when the outcome has to be realised. To have any ideas at all to 
criticise you must first create or generate those ideas. That involves 
completely different neurotransmitters.

No amount of criticism of an existing idea ever produced one new idea. You have 
brakes on your car but brakes are not enough. The only time brakes are enough 
is when you are on a steep incline and you are rolling down that incline.

So, critical thinking is perhaps enough for a decadent society in a state of 
decline, but not in one that is on the upswing and intent on making progress 
via creative thinking.

Kim



> 
>> For the professional critic, proposing or inventing ideas is always someone 
>> else's job. Criticism is by its very nature negative or Black Hat thinking 
>> ie one style of thinking out of many. Many people like to style themselves 
>> as "the resident Black Hat thinker" which is not surprising at all since it 
>> turns out that criticising existing ideas is the easiest form of thinking.
>> 
>> Actually we don't need critics making their "critiques" at all. What we need 
>> is for ALL thinkers to know when to wear the Black Hat and when not to wear 
>> it. As usual the role of criticism is supposed to be a constructive one but 
>> I'm afraid that's an oxymoron as criticism is always negative and that's its 
>> function. 
>> 
>> Kim
>>  
>> 
>> On 20 Mar 2015, at 10:31 am, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>>> On 3/19/2015 3:54 PM, LizR wrote:
>>>> On 20 March 2015 at 10:56, Kim Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Clark is that desperate order of human whose only creative ability lies 
>>>>> in shitting on the thinking of others. He is quite simply bereft of any 
>>>>> thinking of his own and has clearly never once in gis life experienced a 
>>>>> creative idea - even by accident. He is therefore exists only as a 
>>>>> parasite on the back of others since he lacks the means to exist as a 
>>>>> thinker in his own right. 
>>>> This might be of interest...
>>>>  
>>>> http://writersfestival.co.nz/events/the-role-of-the-critic/
>>> 
>>> I wonder why only art needs critics?
>>> 
>>> Brent
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