On 24 Mar 2015, at 01:50, meekerdb wrote:

On 3/23/2015 5:02 PM, LizR wrote:
On 24 March 2015 at 08:02, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:

That every number has a unique successor for one.

"Let's call the first number that doesn't have a unique successor n..."

That's one possible form of ultrafinitism, but not the only one. Let's see you derive a contradiction from that (without implicitly assuming infinities). Most forms of finitism don't assume a biggest number.

http://www.jeanpaulvanbendegem.be/strict%20finitism.pdf

Excellent text. No problem at all. Almost an argument for using RA even when wanting to play with RA and ZF. RA *is* strict finitism. PA is still finitism. and if infinitist ZF can help, why not interviewing her, but all have the same G+G* theology. Except the base strictly finitist.

Some aspect of the theology would disappear, if we use such ontology to forbid interviewing the many infinitist believers existing in the strictly finitist realm, though.

Computationalism is a finitism. And RA is a strict finitism. It can have a biggest number. I show this in more detail later perhaps. The existence of a biggest number does not contradict the axiom:

0 ≠ s(x)
s(x) = s(y) -> x = y
x = 0 v Ey(x = s(y))
x+0 = x
x+s(y) = s(x+y)
x*0=0
x*s(y)=(x*y)+x



http://www.math.rutgers.edu/~zeilberg/mamarim/mamarimPDF/real.pdf

Nice points, but less serious, contain errors.

Bruno



Brent

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